Drat, forgot to get the PVC cement! I had a can, but discovered it was rock solid. Well, it was 10 years old... I tossed it. But I meant to get new cement yesterday and forgot. I need to build the top of the base first, and that involves some combinations of fittings, so they need to be cemented and carefully aligned first. Can't do anything useful until that is done!
For my design, I have to put a 45 degree elbow into a 5-way cross piece exactly perpendicular, then cement in a bushing that changes the 1.25" PVC to .5" PVC. I think I want to make a jig to assure the correct angle... Perhaps clamping the 5 way into a bench clamp and having an upright to mark exactly 90 degrees. Or I could screw some blocks into cheap plywood horizontally. I'll have to look at both.
I can't decide how long the arch pieces will be until I have the top of the base cemented. The base is 7'. So the best arch top might be between 8' and 9'. But I want to see it physically before I start cutting the top .5' PVC pipe.
May be a couple days before I get around to that. The lawn is covered with leaves again, the boat is full of leaves, and I have more spent flowers to cut down for the year...
Monday, November 23, 2009
Friday, November 20, 2009
The Boat Canopy - Yet Again, Part 2
Well, I've hesitated cutting the PVC pipe. I've never used a reciprocating saw, and I've never cut PVC where accuracy was important.
Today, I took saw in hand and went at it! Of course, as I mentioned previously, I set up clamps and a sort of jig. I clamped 2 portable workbenchs so that there was a spot exactky the 5" distance I needed to cut. Then I moved the pipe so I could cut it straight (really easily with the reciprocating saw's guides).
I cut the 1st pipe and checked the measurement... Perfect 5'. I did the other 12 pipes the same way. I got some off by 1/8th", but generally, worked quite well. The slight difference won't make any difference (I'll match side by side pieces to match).
So now I have all my 1.25" pipes cut to the 5' and 7' lengths I need. I'll construct the bottom part 1st. Then I can try out a few roof arch lengths to see how to cut the tops pieces.
The reciprocating saw worked GREAT! I found one sawblade at the Home Depot marked for PVC (marked as "8/12"). But they were sold in packs of 10, and I sure didn't need that many. Individual blades were not marked for PVC. But the 10 pack was 8/12 so I bought a single 8/12 Rigid blade. That's the one to use. Cuts through like a hot knife in soft butter, no casting of PVC dust at low speeds, and a nice clean cut! The DeWalt saw gave a good square cut with almost no vibration. I was utterly pleased! No hint of melt, and the burrs rubbed off by hand (I"ll run a file inside and out anyway).
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I cut the 1st pipe and checked the measurement... Perfect 5'. I did the other 12 pipes the same way. I got some off by 1/8th", but generally, worked quite well. The slight difference won't make any difference (I'll match side by side pieces to match).
So now I have all my 1.25" pipes cut to the 5' and 7' lengths I need. I'll construct the bottom part 1st. Then I can try out a few roof arch lengths to see how to cut the tops pieces.
The reciprocating saw worked GREAT! I found one sawblade at the Home Depot marked for PVC (marked as "8/12"). But they were sold in packs of 10, and I sure didn't need that many. Individual blades were not marked for PVC. But the 10 pack was 8/12 so I bought a single 8/12 Rigid blade. That's the one to use. Cuts through like a hot knife in soft butter, no casting of PVC dust at low speeds, and a nice clean cut! The DeWalt saw gave a good square cut with almost no vibration. I was utterly pleased! No hint of melt, and the burrs rubbed off by hand (I"ll run a file inside and out anyway).
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Wednesday, November 18, 2009
Boat Canopy Project Started
Well, I discovered something interesting about PVC pipes. They AREN'T all exactly 10'. Most were, but some others were exactly 10' 1/4". Not 10' 1/8", or anything else. Just one or the other. That's weird.
So I separated them by length today. I have 13 lengths that I need to cut exactly to 5" (for 26 5' pieces). I need 6 lengths to cut to 7'. So the ones that are too long get cut to 7'. That leaves me 3 "too long" pieces I'll have to trim a 1/4" off, but that's not too bad.
These are the exact 10' lengths:
(Picture would be inserted here if it were possible. Imagine a nice row of identical lengths of PVC pipes). GRRR!
I'm just glad I checked them before doing the cutting.
These are the longer ones. No, they aren't THAT longer. I just didn't line them up against the wall for this picture.
(Picture lengths of identical 1/4" too long PVC pipes than the one benchmark exact 10" length). GRRR!
I sure hope blogspot.com fixes this problem soon! Not being able to show pictures is VERY frustrating...
I made a sort of jig today.
I used my 2 Workmate benches to hold the 10' pipes. I clamped a board across them to make the outside edges exactly 5' and locked the benches together so they can't "drift" apart while the saw rattles them. That way, I can use the benches to measure 5 exactly'. Cool! It works like a stop block.
The distance from the far edges is exactly 5" so I can mark the pipes to cut them. And they are clamped together by a board so they can't change the distance.
I love setting things up to help in the production... That in itself is half the fun of making things.
So I separated them by length today. I have 13 lengths that I need to cut exactly to 5" (for 26 5' pieces). I need 6 lengths to cut to 7'. So the ones that are too long get cut to 7'. That leaves me 3 "too long" pieces I'll have to trim a 1/4" off, but that's not too bad.
These are the exact 10' lengths:
(Picture would be inserted here if it were possible. Imagine a nice row of identical lengths of PVC pipes). GRRR!
I'm just glad I checked them before doing the cutting.
These are the longer ones. No, they aren't THAT longer. I just didn't line them up against the wall for this picture.
(Picture lengths of identical 1/4" too long PVC pipes than the one benchmark exact 10" length). GRRR!
I sure hope blogspot.com fixes this problem soon! Not being able to show pictures is VERY frustrating...
I made a sort of jig today.
I used my 2 Workmate benches to hold the 10' pipes. I clamped a board across them to make the outside edges exactly 5' and locked the benches together so they can't "drift" apart while the saw rattles them. That way, I can use the benches to measure 5 exactly'. Cool! It works like a stop block.
The distance from the far edges is exactly 5" so I can mark the pipes to cut them. And they are clamped together by a board so they can't change the distance.
I love setting things up to help in the production... That in itself is half the fun of making things.
Sunday, November 15, 2009
No Photos?
Suddenly, I don't have icons for adding photos to the blog. Is it just me, or something happening across blogger.com? This is really annoying. I didn't change anything.
Saturday, November 14, 2009
The Boat Canopy - Yet Again
I'll admit it. I have all the pipes and fitting for the boat canopy design. I'm just a bit afraid to start making it! It suddenly feels a bit more complicated than I expected. It's one thing to design something, but another to actually build it.
The first thing that struck me was how to cut dozens of 1.25" PVC pipes into the pieces I needed. I have a pipe cutter that you turn around on the pipe and keep tightening. But doing that for dozens of cuts seemed daunting. I considered the radial saw, the tablesaw, a hacksaw, and a jigsaw. All seemed problematic. I googled a lot of PVC discussion sites and the evaluations of the various cutting methods all had supporters and detractors. Serious power tools not only toss up a lot of nasty PVC dust, but can make bad cuts, and even spray splinters that get into the skin. Low-powered tool like a jigsaw are slow and tend not to make square cuts. Manual saws are s-l-o-w...
I decided a reciprocating saw was the best choice. So I pulled out my never-used reciprocating saw. It had only 1 saws blade on the kit, designed for metal. And I had read some reports that said those blades melted the PVC edges and left hard blobs.
So I went to the net to find reciprocating saw blades designed for PVC. Go ahead and search for yourself. They are mentioned often, but never specified! It was a maddening search. There is basically "metal", "wood", and "multipurpose". I was so frustrated!
I went to Home Depot yesterday and looked at reciprocating saw blades. The hardware/tool clerk (manager?) helped. He pointed out that all the blades fit all the saws. That helped, I thought I need the same brand as my DeWalt saw. Then he noticed that there were little graphics on the blades that showed what they were designed to cut. One had a picture of PVC pipe. But that was a pack of 10 blades and I sure didn't need THAT many. He had to go help another customer. But then I noticed that the teeth description on the PVC blade was "8/12".
So I looked at the individual blades and found others that were "8/12". It seems to be a pattern of varying teeth. I bought one! Yay...
I have a few old pieces of PVC pipe and I will try the blade on one in the next couple of days. If it works well, I will start cutting Boat Canopy PVC soon.
I've been thinking on how to cut pieces accurately. I need a bunch of 1.25" pipes at 7', a bunch of 1.25" pipes at 5', a bunch of .5" pipes at 5" and a bunch of /5" pipes at 2.5'. I think I will have to set up stop blocks on my workbench and use the far end to mark the cut points. Then I can set the PVC pipes in a pair of Workmate benches set 1/4" part to guide the reciprocating saw in a straight cut.
Assembling all the pieces is going to drive me nuts...
On the other hand, I'm going to be thrilled after I get it all finished.
I'll sure be glad to go back to working with wood when this project is completed!
The first thing that struck me was how to cut dozens of 1.25" PVC pipes into the pieces I needed. I have a pipe cutter that you turn around on the pipe and keep tightening. But doing that for dozens of cuts seemed daunting. I considered the radial saw, the tablesaw, a hacksaw, and a jigsaw. All seemed problematic. I googled a lot of PVC discussion sites and the evaluations of the various cutting methods all had supporters and detractors. Serious power tools not only toss up a lot of nasty PVC dust, but can make bad cuts, and even spray splinters that get into the skin. Low-powered tool like a jigsaw are slow and tend not to make square cuts. Manual saws are s-l-o-w...
I decided a reciprocating saw was the best choice. So I pulled out my never-used reciprocating saw. It had only 1 saws blade on the kit, designed for metal. And I had read some reports that said those blades melted the PVC edges and left hard blobs.
So I went to the net to find reciprocating saw blades designed for PVC. Go ahead and search for yourself. They are mentioned often, but never specified! It was a maddening search. There is basically "metal", "wood", and "multipurpose". I was so frustrated!
I went to Home Depot yesterday and looked at reciprocating saw blades. The hardware/tool clerk (manager?) helped. He pointed out that all the blades fit all the saws. That helped, I thought I need the same brand as my DeWalt saw. Then he noticed that there were little graphics on the blades that showed what they were designed to cut. One had a picture of PVC pipe. But that was a pack of 10 blades and I sure didn't need THAT many. He had to go help another customer. But then I noticed that the teeth description on the PVC blade was "8/12".
So I looked at the individual blades and found others that were "8/12". It seems to be a pattern of varying teeth. I bought one! Yay...
I have a few old pieces of PVC pipe and I will try the blade on one in the next couple of days. If it works well, I will start cutting Boat Canopy PVC soon.
I've been thinking on how to cut pieces accurately. I need a bunch of 1.25" pipes at 7', a bunch of 1.25" pipes at 5', a bunch of .5" pipes at 5" and a bunch of /5" pipes at 2.5'. I think I will have to set up stop blocks on my workbench and use the far end to mark the cut points. Then I can set the PVC pipes in a pair of Workmate benches set 1/4" part to guide the reciprocating saw in a straight cut.
Assembling all the pieces is going to drive me nuts...
On the other hand, I'm going to be thrilled after I get it all finished.
I'll sure be glad to go back to working with wood when this project is completed!
Friday, November 13, 2009
Oops, Been Away...
I can't believe I haven't posted for 3 weeks! I've been busy, just not with stuff worth taking pictures of.
I planted 400 crocus bulbs. 200 at a friend's place, 200 in my yard.
My parents visited. That took 3 days of attention and cooking, and 2 days before to clean house and 1 day of downtime afterwards! I had to watch Science TV for 2 days to get over having to listen to Fox News while they were here... (Shudder)
I cleared out all the dead tomato vines. Carefully. There were disease problems and I tried hard not to leave any vine debris behind. After I collected all the debris on the lawn and bagged it for disposal. I stacked all the cages far away from the garden. I don't think fungal diseases do well on rusty metal exposed to cold Winter temperatures.
I raked all the leaves out onto the lawn. That's right, ONTO the lawn. I shred them with the mower until there is nothing left but leaf dust among the grass. It really works well! Free fertilizer and organic bulk for the soil. My surface soil was clay when I moved here; now I have 6" of topsoil. You don't get that by applying commercial fertilizer...
I chopped down most of the spent flowers. That was quite an effort. I have a lot of asters, coneflowers, monarda, sedums, etc that are 3' tall. I had to haul a lot of flowerstalks to the slow compost pile. And I made sure to leave the seedheads sticking up in the compost pile so the birds can get at them.
The tricky thing was the thistle seedheads I discovered. They were hidden among the asters. I cut one and a few seeds fell off. So I covered the rest with plastic bags and taped them shut, THEN cut them. I sure don't want those damn things next year.
Related weed subject: Bindweed. I was after them ferociously all year. I don't think a single one got more than a few inches long before I pulled them up. I know they are perennial and have deep roots, but if they can't grow above soil for long, they will die.
It has been raining for almost 4 days. Leftover from Tropical Storm Ida. That has kept me inside.
My cat LC had her annual shots and exam. But I didn't have a stool sample. With 3 cats, it can be hard to tell who's is who's. I closed LC in the guest bedroom Friday (with food, water, and a litterbox of course). No luck. Tried it Sunday. No luck. LC really likes to "do her business" outside. I finally had to leave her there Tuesday and Wednesday until I got a poop sample! I went to the vet Thursday morning, but they were closed. I had to wait til Friday. Doing shopping and errands with cat scat in a plastic bag in the front seat is not my favorite thing to do.
But I got it delivered earlier today and the results were negative (she is as clean of scat-identifyable problems). For multiple cats who like to be outside a lot, that was great news. And, as LC is approaching 17 years, she might be expected to have some problems. None there, anyway.
So things are going well and I have been active. I should learn to post about things even when I don't have pictures to show!
Back on track tomorrow, I hope.
I planted 400 crocus bulbs. 200 at a friend's place, 200 in my yard.
My parents visited. That took 3 days of attention and cooking, and 2 days before to clean house and 1 day of downtime afterwards! I had to watch Science TV for 2 days to get over having to listen to Fox News while they were here... (Shudder)
I cleared out all the dead tomato vines. Carefully. There were disease problems and I tried hard not to leave any vine debris behind. After I collected all the debris on the lawn and bagged it for disposal. I stacked all the cages far away from the garden. I don't think fungal diseases do well on rusty metal exposed to cold Winter temperatures.
I raked all the leaves out onto the lawn. That's right, ONTO the lawn. I shred them with the mower until there is nothing left but leaf dust among the grass. It really works well! Free fertilizer and organic bulk for the soil. My surface soil was clay when I moved here; now I have 6" of topsoil. You don't get that by applying commercial fertilizer...
I chopped down most of the spent flowers. That was quite an effort. I have a lot of asters, coneflowers, monarda, sedums, etc that are 3' tall. I had to haul a lot of flowerstalks to the slow compost pile. And I made sure to leave the seedheads sticking up in the compost pile so the birds can get at them.
The tricky thing was the thistle seedheads I discovered. They were hidden among the asters. I cut one and a few seeds fell off. So I covered the rest with plastic bags and taped them shut, THEN cut them. I sure don't want those damn things next year.
Related weed subject: Bindweed. I was after them ferociously all year. I don't think a single one got more than a few inches long before I pulled them up. I know they are perennial and have deep roots, but if they can't grow above soil for long, they will die.
It has been raining for almost 4 days. Leftover from Tropical Storm Ida. That has kept me inside.
My cat LC had her annual shots and exam. But I didn't have a stool sample. With 3 cats, it can be hard to tell who's is who's. I closed LC in the guest bedroom Friday (with food, water, and a litterbox of course). No luck. Tried it Sunday. No luck. LC really likes to "do her business" outside. I finally had to leave her there Tuesday and Wednesday until I got a poop sample! I went to the vet Thursday morning, but they were closed. I had to wait til Friday. Doing shopping and errands with cat scat in a plastic bag in the front seat is not my favorite thing to do.
But I got it delivered earlier today and the results were negative (she is as clean of scat-identifyable problems). For multiple cats who like to be outside a lot, that was great news. And, as LC is approaching 17 years, she might be expected to have some problems. None there, anyway.
So things are going well and I have been active. I should learn to post about things even when I don't have pictures to show!
Back on track tomorrow, I hope.
Sunday, October 18, 2009
Boat Canopy Design - Again!
Finally, I think I got it right. I became concerned about "snow-load", so I decided to add two additional long secondary ridge poles to the top for stability. Fortunately the extra .5" tees (H) and crosses (I) parts were available locally!
Here is the final design. Enlarge the pictures (click or double-click), cuz not all shows at normal view.
The rear view above doesn't mean much except that the sides are straight up and the top is arched. The top view shows the connections (identified by letters) of the arched roof (much stronger than angled roofs).
This shows the side view and the quantities of pipes and fittings required (by letter and shape of fitting). I'm doing that for those who are not familiar with the available fittings (as I was not when I started this project).
I am working out the order of construction. I think it best to construct the top first. You want to make sure to get all the cross-pieces square to each other, so constructing it on a flat surface like a garage floor or patio is probably best. If you construct it on a nice flat basement floor, you probably won't be able to get it out... ;)
Since the top (with the cross-braces connecting the arches) is self sturdy, it seems easier to construct the bottom later, as a good top will automatically lead to a solid straight base.
OK, off to work out the order of construction...
Here is the final design. Enlarge the pictures (click or double-click), cuz not all shows at normal view.
I am working out the order of construction. I think it best to construct the top first. You want to make sure to get all the cross-pieces square to each other, so constructing it on a flat surface like a garage floor or patio is probably best. If you construct it on a nice flat basement floor, you probably won't be able to get it out... ;)
Since the top (with the cross-braces connecting the arches) is self sturdy, it seems easier to construct the bottom later, as a good top will automatically lead to a solid straight base.
OK, off to work out the order of construction...
Monday, October 12, 2009
PVC Parts Arrived Today!
Hurray! The specialty parts from Creative Shelters arrived today. This is the stuff for the "boatport" (movable carport for a boat) I want to construct. I feel like I've been on "hold" all week waiting for the stuff!
And I've been re-considering the design. I still need all the parts I ordered, I just want to add 2 more side poles on the top for improved rigidity (locally-available fittings). I'm probably "over-engineering" this (something my friends say I am notorious for), but better safe than sorry (and nothing I build ever falls apart). I heard on the radio yesterday that my area is forecast to have a harsher than usual Winter and I am concerned about snow load. So while the roof was going to be arched with a single ridge pole, I am adding 2 halfway down. It will be clearer when I take pictures.
The first thing I'm going to do is lay out all the fittings on the garage floor to make sure I have what I need. Second thing is to confirm the amount of PVC pipe I need. I haven't bought that yet. I need the trailer to haul the 10' pipes in, and it was full of brush until earlier today.
Then, I think I should build the fittings. That sounds odd, but I have a lot of places where I need to connect 2 fittings with a short bit of pipe (like a 45 degree elbow to a cross piece or tee) to make a customized single fitting. They don't make 5-way fittings with a 45 degree elbow and a "1.25 to .75 inch" bushing attached, LOL! I have a strange design that may be quite useful to others when I am done.
When the roof is constructed, THEN I'll know exactly what size the support structure needs to be. The roof is much more complex than the bottom. Well, I'd hate to build the support structure first and then try to fit the top on badly...
Note: I have no business relationship with Creative Shelters other than "customer". I just found them to be a good retail online place to get all the odd parts I needed for this project.
And I've been re-considering the design. I still need all the parts I ordered, I just want to add 2 more side poles on the top for improved rigidity (locally-available fittings). I'm probably "over-engineering" this (something my friends say I am notorious for), but better safe than sorry (and nothing I build ever falls apart). I heard on the radio yesterday that my area is forecast to have a harsher than usual Winter and I am concerned about snow load. So while the roof was going to be arched with a single ridge pole, I am adding 2 halfway down. It will be clearer when I take pictures.
The first thing I'm going to do is lay out all the fittings on the garage floor to make sure I have what I need. Second thing is to confirm the amount of PVC pipe I need. I haven't bought that yet. I need the trailer to haul the 10' pipes in, and it was full of brush until earlier today.
Then, I think I should build the fittings. That sounds odd, but I have a lot of places where I need to connect 2 fittings with a short bit of pipe (like a 45 degree elbow to a cross piece or tee) to make a customized single fitting. They don't make 5-way fittings with a 45 degree elbow and a "1.25 to .75 inch" bushing attached, LOL! I have a strange design that may be quite useful to others when I am done.
When the roof is constructed, THEN I'll know exactly what size the support structure needs to be. The roof is much more complex than the bottom. Well, I'd hate to build the support structure first and then try to fit the top on badly...
Note: I have no business relationship with Creative Shelters other than "customer". I just found them to be a good retail online place to get all the odd parts I needed for this project.
Sunday, October 11, 2009
The Heat Pump Works!
OK. It seems like the heat pump guys finally got the thermostat to communicate with the heat pump. It wasn't easy, though.
At first, they insisted on trying their standard thermostat with their standard heat pump for 3 days in a row and it didn't work. The 4th day, the same repair guy arrived with a 2nd repair guy who claimed to have had these problems before and solved them. I was getting pretty tired of all the failed attempts and told them that they either fixed the problem or haul the unit away, reimburse me the whole cost, and I would call another company. Not to my surprise, that seemed to have an effect...
1. I had looked up the Ruud brand of heat pumps on the internet last night and they are not the best. Well, I had heard of them for years and thought they were good. I only chose them because it was so hot in July when the York unit failed, because York said "2 days" and Ruud said "1 hour". At the time, I was desperate; it was 95 in the house!
2. I hoped they (Ruud) would take the unit away so I could change my mind and get a Trane.
3. I didn't think that a different thermostat would solve the problem.
Well, damn, they seem to have fixed the problem with a different brand of thermostat! And while I an not a thermostat expert, I listen carefully and learn well...
We know we see integer degrees on our thermostats. We see 71 or 72 or whatever. It seems that thermostats don't actually function in those terms. They can measure full degrees in full whole numbers (71, 72) or half numbers (71.5) and that is promammable. They thought that might be the problem for over an hour. IOW, the problem might be that that the thermostat was reading full degrees when it should be reading half degrees (something about both heating and cooling reading the same units that caused the problem). But changing that didn't solve the problem anyway.
Finally, they just hooked a different brand thermostat in and it worked perfectly right from the start!
Can you believe that? They fought with a thermostat they knew they were having troubles with and that wouldn't work for three days (they had tried 4 new thermostats). Sure, they wasted their time at it, but they wasted MY TIME, too. The time while they worked and the time I waited. I figure I spent 20 hours this week either waiting for them to arrive or watching them while they were here.
The good news is, that after 3 days, the system seems to be working properly, I have gotten used to the thermostat controls, and the whole house breaker has not tripped once (isn't that curious). That whole house breaker box problem started when the heat pump went bad and ended the day it was fixed (so far). That the heat pump guys say it couldn't be their fault means nothing to me. I'll take coincidence on this matter.
I am quite certain that, somewhere, there are people with the bad combination of the particular thermostat with the particular heat pump from this company who DON'T know their heat pump shouldn't be running all the time and wondering why their electric bill is high.
When I suggested to the repair guys that they should have the company backtrack these situations, they just laughed while walking out the door. A case of "not their problem", I suppose).
Well, mine is fixed... Maybe I should only care about that. But I don't... I think I will email the Jiffy company (the installers) and raise the issue.
At first, they insisted on trying their standard thermostat with their standard heat pump for 3 days in a row and it didn't work. The 4th day, the same repair guy arrived with a 2nd repair guy who claimed to have had these problems before and solved them. I was getting pretty tired of all the failed attempts and told them that they either fixed the problem or haul the unit away, reimburse me the whole cost, and I would call another company. Not to my surprise, that seemed to have an effect...
1. I had looked up the Ruud brand of heat pumps on the internet last night and they are not the best. Well, I had heard of them for years and thought they were good. I only chose them because it was so hot in July when the York unit failed, because York said "2 days" and Ruud said "1 hour". At the time, I was desperate; it was 95 in the house!
2. I hoped they (Ruud) would take the unit away so I could change my mind and get a Trane.
3. I didn't think that a different thermostat would solve the problem.
Well, damn, they seem to have fixed the problem with a different brand of thermostat! And while I an not a thermostat expert, I listen carefully and learn well...
We know we see integer degrees on our thermostats. We see 71 or 72 or whatever. It seems that thermostats don't actually function in those terms. They can measure full degrees in full whole numbers (71, 72) or half numbers (71.5) and that is promammable. They thought that might be the problem for over an hour. IOW, the problem might be that that the thermostat was reading full degrees when it should be reading half degrees (something about both heating and cooling reading the same units that caused the problem). But changing that didn't solve the problem anyway.
Finally, they just hooked a different brand thermostat in and it worked perfectly right from the start!
Can you believe that? They fought with a thermostat they knew they were having troubles with and that wouldn't work for three days (they had tried 4 new thermostats). Sure, they wasted their time at it, but they wasted MY TIME, too. The time while they worked and the time I waited. I figure I spent 20 hours this week either waiting for them to arrive or watching them while they were here.
The good news is, that after 3 days, the system seems to be working properly, I have gotten used to the thermostat controls, and the whole house breaker has not tripped once (isn't that curious). That whole house breaker box problem started when the heat pump went bad and ended the day it was fixed (so far). That the heat pump guys say it couldn't be their fault means nothing to me. I'll take coincidence on this matter.
I am quite certain that, somewhere, there are people with the bad combination of the particular thermostat with the particular heat pump from this company who DON'T know their heat pump shouldn't be running all the time and wondering why their electric bill is high.
When I suggested to the repair guys that they should have the company backtrack these situations, they just laughed while walking out the door. A case of "not their problem", I suppose).
Well, mine is fixed... Maybe I should only care about that. But I don't... I think I will email the Jiffy company (the installers) and raise the issue.
Wednesday, October 7, 2009
Electrical Troubles - Part 2
The adventure continues! The heat pump is still not working right. It seemed to be working correctly yesterday when the repair guy left, but that was because the conditions that we now realize trigger the problem didn't occur again until nighttime. This morning I took detailed notes.
The heat pump is set on the "heat" setting (yes, "heat pumps" cool also). I set it at 71 F degrees. When the temperature drops 2 degrees, it starts heating again. By design, hen it reaches 71, it stops and waits for the house to cool 2 degrees again. It takes about 15 minutes to raise the heat to 71 again.
The problem with my unit is that, for reasons unknown, as soon as the heat cycle warms the house to 71, the cooling cycle kicks on and cools the house down. When it reaches the 2 degrees below the setting (71), the heat cycle kicks in again. Endless loop, forcing the unit to operate constantly.
So the repair guy was back again today and worked 2 1/2 hours trying to fix the problem. He replaced the thermostat twice (new units, not "used"), rewired the entire installed heat pump, and the same problem occurs. He swears he has used the same thermostat with the same heat pump many times without problems.
The evil thermostat (with the lid up to show the controls):
Late in the effort, another repair guy called him saying he HAS had problems with those thermostats and that heat pump. So tomorrow, they are BOTH coming out (with a different type of thermostat) and attempt to solve the problem.
I bet a different thermostat doesn't solve the problem. I think there is something internally wrong with the heat pump itself and that they are going to have to replace the whole unit!
And I'll bet that some of their customers have the same problem I do and don't realize it is a problem. They just get used to having the heat pump running all the time and wonder why their electric bill is so high!
I'm glad I'm retired. If I was having to take time off work for this nonsense, I'd be getting seriously upset.
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The heat pump is set on the "heat" setting (yes, "heat pumps" cool also). I set it at 71 F degrees. When the temperature drops 2 degrees, it starts heating again. By design, hen it reaches 71, it stops and waits for the house to cool 2 degrees again. It takes about 15 minutes to raise the heat to 71 again.
The problem with my unit is that, for reasons unknown, as soon as the heat cycle warms the house to 71, the cooling cycle kicks on and cools the house down. When it reaches the 2 degrees below the setting (71), the heat cycle kicks in again. Endless loop, forcing the unit to operate constantly.
So the repair guy was back again today and worked 2 1/2 hours trying to fix the problem. He replaced the thermostat twice (new units, not "used"), rewired the entire installed heat pump, and the same problem occurs. He swears he has used the same thermostat with the same heat pump many times without problems.
The evil thermostat (with the lid up to show the controls):
Late in the effort, another repair guy called him saying he HAS had problems with those thermostats and that heat pump. So tomorrow, they are BOTH coming out (with a different type of thermostat) and attempt to solve the problem.
I bet a different thermostat doesn't solve the problem. I think there is something internally wrong with the heat pump itself and that they are going to have to replace the whole unit!
And I'll bet that some of their customers have the same problem I do and don't realize it is a problem. They just get used to having the heat pump running all the time and wonder why their electric bill is so high!
I'm glad I'm retired. If I was having to take time off work for this nonsense, I'd be getting seriously upset.
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Tuesday, October 6, 2009
Electrical Troubles
Grr! On July 28 this year, my heat pump failed. It was SO hot in the house! I called a couple of repair places, but they said "two days". I was dismayed. I found a listing that said "24 hour service, no additional charge". Great. I called and they were there in an hour! Their conclusion was that the unit had been hit by an electrical charge, the compressor was fried, and there was probably damage to other circuits that they couldn't test without a working compressor (which would cost about 1/2 the cost of replacing the whole unit. They could do the replacement the next morning.
Well, there HAD been a tremendous lightening crash directly overhead the night before. I jumped 3 feet, and all the cats were puffed up like big tribbles! So there was some logic to their conclusion. The replacement cost was about what I guessed, and I know the Ruud brand. I accepted.
Sure enough, they arrived in mid-morning and completed the replacement in 2 hours. Everything worked immediately, and they even converted the battery-powered thermostat to AC "as a favor". That may or not have been a mistake, but it seemed like such a minor thing at the time.
Some odd things followed. My oven clock suddenly started gaining 15 minutes per hour, and my M/V turntable turned at a different speed (I know because I heat my morning green tea water 1:30 minutes every time and for years it stopped in exactly the same position). Suddenly it didn't, and randomly positioned. Trivial, but weird.
Fast-forward to Oct 1st last week. I turned on the heat cycle for the first time, and it worked fine. 4 times in the next 5 days, the main house circuit breaker tripped. The 1st time, I assumed it was the whole neighborhood. But going outside, I realized it was only my house! I found the main breaker tripped and reset it. The next 3 times it was really annoying. I had my power company out Saturday morning to check their incoming line. They found no problems and suggested the main breaker on my end had to be replaced.
Saturday, Sunday, and Monday, I noticed that my heat pump (on "heat") was running continuously. And then I discovered that sometimes it was putting out warm air and sometimes cool air. Without ever seeming to turn off in between. Weird (and possibly expensive).
But when the main breaker (whole circuit box) tripped while I was taking a shower and covered with lather, I was compelled to act. Well, you shower in the dark if you want. ;) I called an electrician this morning (and he arrived in an hour!). After 30 minutes of diagnostics on the circuit box, he couldn't find any problem with it. I mentioned the heat pump problem. He wouldn't try to repair it himself, but he said it appeared to be locked on A/C but also intermittently producing emergency resistance heat. He left saying he would try to find a main breaker replacement part (it's old) and call with a price. But he said I needed to call the heat pump company because it wasn't working properly.
So I did, and they arrived after 3 hours (these fast response times are amazing). The service guy checked the inside unit, outside unit, and found some wiring oddities which he fixed. When he reset the thermostat, he was surprised that the problem remained. He spent more diagnosing the system to no avail, then went and checked the thermostat. He used some different instruments and said it wasn't working right. He went and rewired the heat pump as it was originally, then tested the thermostat again. Same problem. I agreed to have the thermostat replaced. He said converting it to AC was a mistake and changed it back to battery power.
Without him changing any wiring or parts afterwords, the new thermostat made everything work perfectly. However, he pointed out that nothing in the entire heat pump system should have been able to trip the main house breaker switch! In other words, the maximum surge draw of the heat pump even with problems is only 26 amps and I had 60 to spare (plus I had not been drawing half the capacity at any time). So basically, he said the heat pump was fixed but he couldn't think of any connection between that problem and the main breaker tripping.
So I still wait for the main power breaker to trip again at any time... If the first electrician calls with a reasonable cost of replacing the main breaker, I will just have it done. Getting caught in pitch black with soap in your eyes is not much fun, after all...
Why don't I ever have any "normal" problems? Everything that I can't fix myself is admittedly "weird" to the professionals who come. Maybe I just fix the routine problems. Or maybe it's just "mean ETs". LOL!
Well, there HAD been a tremendous lightening crash directly overhead the night before. I jumped 3 feet, and all the cats were puffed up like big tribbles! So there was some logic to their conclusion. The replacement cost was about what I guessed, and I know the Ruud brand. I accepted.
Sure enough, they arrived in mid-morning and completed the replacement in 2 hours. Everything worked immediately, and they even converted the battery-powered thermostat to AC "as a favor". That may or not have been a mistake, but it seemed like such a minor thing at the time.
Some odd things followed. My oven clock suddenly started gaining 15 minutes per hour, and my M/V turntable turned at a different speed (I know because I heat my morning green tea water 1:30 minutes every time and for years it stopped in exactly the same position). Suddenly it didn't, and randomly positioned. Trivial, but weird.
Fast-forward to Oct 1st last week. I turned on the heat cycle for the first time, and it worked fine. 4 times in the next 5 days, the main house circuit breaker tripped. The 1st time, I assumed it was the whole neighborhood. But going outside, I realized it was only my house! I found the main breaker tripped and reset it. The next 3 times it was really annoying. I had my power company out Saturday morning to check their incoming line. They found no problems and suggested the main breaker on my end had to be replaced.
Saturday, Sunday, and Monday, I noticed that my heat pump (on "heat") was running continuously. And then I discovered that sometimes it was putting out warm air and sometimes cool air. Without ever seeming to turn off in between. Weird (and possibly expensive).
But when the main breaker (whole circuit box) tripped while I was taking a shower and covered with lather, I was compelled to act. Well, you shower in the dark if you want. ;) I called an electrician this morning (and he arrived in an hour!). After 30 minutes of diagnostics on the circuit box, he couldn't find any problem with it. I mentioned the heat pump problem. He wouldn't try to repair it himself, but he said it appeared to be locked on A/C but also intermittently producing emergency resistance heat. He left saying he would try to find a main breaker replacement part (it's old) and call with a price. But he said I needed to call the heat pump company because it wasn't working properly.
So I did, and they arrived after 3 hours (these fast response times are amazing). The service guy checked the inside unit, outside unit, and found some wiring oddities which he fixed. When he reset the thermostat, he was surprised that the problem remained. He spent more diagnosing the system to no avail, then went and checked the thermostat. He used some different instruments and said it wasn't working right. He went and rewired the heat pump as it was originally, then tested the thermostat again. Same problem. I agreed to have the thermostat replaced. He said converting it to AC was a mistake and changed it back to battery power.
Without him changing any wiring or parts afterwords, the new thermostat made everything work perfectly. However, he pointed out that nothing in the entire heat pump system should have been able to trip the main house breaker switch! In other words, the maximum surge draw of the heat pump even with problems is only 26 amps and I had 60 to spare (plus I had not been drawing half the capacity at any time). So basically, he said the heat pump was fixed but he couldn't think of any connection between that problem and the main breaker tripping.
So I still wait for the main power breaker to trip again at any time... If the first electrician calls with a reasonable cost of replacing the main breaker, I will just have it done. Getting caught in pitch black with soap in your eyes is not much fun, after all...
Why don't I ever have any "normal" problems? Everything that I can't fix myself is admittedly "weird" to the professionals who come. Maybe I just fix the routine problems. Or maybe it's just "mean ETs". LOL!
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